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    My Favorite Virgin Hero Ever by Kati Dancy
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Ward_awakenedhome I’ll admit right off that bat, that I’m technically breaking the rules for Virgin Hero week. My pick isn’t technically a virgin. He’s had sex before. He’s been with women. But he’s never had a woman ignite the kind of feelings he finds himself having before he meets our heroine.

I’m talking, of course, about Zsadist, the third of the Black Dagger Brotherhood to find love in JR Ward’s brilliant vampire series. Zsadist is well known to be the most dangerous of the brothers. Although leaner than most, he’s also got the nastiest temper which he uses to intimidate the hell out of almost everyone he meets. That is, until he meets Bella.

I’m not going to tell the story of Zsadist and Bella, it can be found in Lover Awakened. And it is a gorgeously crafted story. Instead, what I’m going to talk about is the evolution of Zsadist, and the way Ward writes him.

From the very first time we meet Zsadist in Darius’s home, he’s terrifying. Beth is immediately told by Wrath that she should stay the hell away from Zsadist, and with good reason. Z is a bit unpredictable. We catch glimpses of him throughout the first two books, but it’s not until Lover Awakened that we really find out why Z is the way he is – angry, terrifying, snotty, defensive, illiterate, and just generally pissed off. But it is when Z meets Bella that we begin to see a previously unknown side of Z. She terrifies him. Of course, Z is fascinating to Bella (in that way that we all have of being drawn to the mysterious, angry, hot guy) and she pursues him. Not overtly, but she knows she wants to be with him — that she feels differently when she’s near him. I would characterize his reaction as abject terror wrapped up in an attempt to be as nasty as possible in order to terrify her. That is, until she’s abducted by the Lessening Society. Zsadist’s immediate reaction is a powerful one:

    “Bella’s been taken by the lessers,” Rhage said, checking his Glock.
A cold draft came out of Z like a blast. “What did you say?” (Lover Eternal, pg.404)

Zsadist begins an immediate and single-minded pursuit of the Lessening Society for six weeks, until Bella is finally found, brutalized in a hole in a Lessening Society stronghold. From the moment he rescues her, he will not allow anyone to care for her, and she wants no one but him. It is his voice that soothes her; it is his presence that brings her a modicum of peace.  And it is then that she begins to act upon her feelings for him.

Bella and Z’s relationship is a fascinating one because she has almost all of the power. Z has had sex with women, he’s had release before. But because he was a sex slave for so long when he was younger, he hates his body and its physical response to Bella. When she finally kisses him, it is beyond sweet:

    “Christ….I can’t breathe for knowing that bastard is out there. He has to die.”
Fear and gratitude and something altogether warm squeezed her chest. On impulse, she leaned in and kissed him on the lips.
He jerked back with a hiss, eyes wider than if she’d slapped him.
Oh hell. Why had she done that? “I’m sorry. I’m sorry, I –“
“No, it’s cool. We’re cool.” He rolled onto his back and lifted his hand to his mouth. His fingers rubbed back and forth across his lips, like he was wiping her off him.
When she sighed good and hard, he said, “What’s the matter?”
“Am I so distasteful?”
He dropped his arm. “No.”
What a lie. “Maybe I’ll get you a washcloth, how about that?”
When she would have shot out of bed, his hand clamped on her arm. “That was my first kiss, okay? I just didn’t expect it.” (Lover Awakened, pg. 173)

Zsadist, while having experienced sex, has never experienced attraction, or tenderness. So for all intents and purposes, he is a virgin. And in this case, it is Bella who slowly begins to seduce him. But as with all things Zsadist, it is one step forward, two steps back. He has horrible baggage, and was brutalized sexually, so he’s naturally quite reluctant to move things ahead. That is, until Bella’s Needing.

For these vampires, The Needing is the first time a female vampire is fertile. It lasts a couple of days and requires them to be serviced by a male of their species both sexually and for food (blood). The female’s hormones are so powerful that any male vampire within a certain radius is susceptible and it can result in turmoil between male vampires, especially if the female is not mated.

When Bella enters her Needing, she doesn’t anticipate how painful and difficult it will be for her. And Zsadist is forced to make the decision to see her through the time. At first he thinks to drug her to make her sleep through it. But it soon becomes evident that he will have to provide a different kind of support for her. The Needing scenes remain among the most erotic I’ve ever read, featuring this wonderful learning period for Z where he connects on every level with Bella. When he emerges, there are actual physiological changes in him.

Of course, the path of love never runs true, and Zsadist is not an easy nut to crack.  As I said, one step forward, two steps back. It is not until he forces Bella to leave him (he uses that old standby – act like a big jackass long enough, she’ll leave you), that Z begins to realize that he might just be in love with her. Zsadist begins to make changes in his life, knowing full well that he has done unforgivable things that Bella will most likely not forgive him for. But one day, Bella walks back into his life. She finds that Zsadist has finally begun to eat and is now the size of the rest of his brothers. He’s making changes left and right to his life.

 “Listen, Zsadist, I came to tell you –“
“I didn’t want to see you until I was finished.” As his yellow eyes stared at her, something changed in the air between them.
“With what?” she whispered.
He looked down at the pencil in his hand. “Me.” (Lover Awakened, pg 422)

And this:

    “I…What are you saying, Zsadist?” she stammered, even though she’d heard every word.
He glanced back down at the pencil in his hand and then turned to the table. Flipping the spiral notebook to the new page, he bent way over and labored on top of the paper for quite a while. Then he ripped the sheet free.
His hand was shaking as he held it out. “It’s messy.”
Bella took the paper. In a child’s uneven block letters, there were three words:
I love you. (Lover Awakened, pg. 423)

Zsadist’s evolution from angry, tortured soul to someone with the capacity to love is what makes him my favorite virgin hero ever. OK, sure not technically, but in every way that counts. Part of what makes Lover Awakened so remarkable is we as readers are permitted to see Zsadist’s point of view throughout the encounters between he and Bella. It makes the final Happily Every After for he and Bella so much more touching because we’ve experienced him falling in love, and realizing that he truly wants to be a better man for her.

When you’re reading about virgin heroes, and we hit a love scene, do you want his point of view? Or is it more erotic to read it from the heroine’s point of view?

50 Responses to “My Favorite Virgin Hero Ever by Kati Dancy”

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  1. heidenkind
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 2:12 am

    Am I the only person who hasn’t read this series, or does it just feel that way?

    When it comes to love scenes, I generally prefer the male point of view, whether he’s a “virgin hero” or not. I don’t know why, I just prefer books that center more around the male pov.


  2. Maria Lokken
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 5:51 am

    Heidenkind – I don’t think you’re the only person who hasn’t read the series, but I’m a huge fan, so I highly recommend it.

    Kati – interesting question. In general, I’m interested in the ‘romance’ — the whole package. I love to read scenes where the hero’s generosity, love, kindness and caring are revealed. He needs to have an epiphany. Those types of heroes that really grab my interest.


  3. Marisa
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 6:08 am

    Great Blog Kati! I have to say you’ve given me much to think about – because as you say, Z is technically not a virgin. But what is virginity any way? Seriously, sometimes it can be a ‘state of mind’. Or in Z’s case his ‘first time’ – making love to Bella is the first time he’s with someone he loves and cares about.

    I love that Ward writes so much from Z’s POV – it makes the scenes much more powerful.

    Now you ask when we read virgin hero stories – do we want his pov. HELL YEAH! So many of the books we read are filled with virgin heroines and I thank goodness that romance novels are equal opportunity employers and allow the hero to be a virgin as well. So yes, I want his point of view, I want to know how he feels, his doubts, hopes etc. It’s exciting and scary – it’s a freakin’ fine line an author walks when she makes a strong troubled alpha male a virgin. It’s a hard one to pull off – but when done right I’m in and I definitely want his pov.


  4. J.R. Ward
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 7:26 am

    Hi Maria and Marisa and Kati! Thank you for showing some Z love- he is hands down my favorite hero I’ve ever written. I think he’s going to stay that way. He’s just very special.

    As for POV, for me as a writer, I generally don’t make a conscious choice of which POV to use- most of the time it’s a case of whoever’s voice in my head is most compelling. However, on occaision, the person who’s having the hardest time or biggest reaction needs to be seen by another- this grounds the reader, giving them the visuals and the auditories in a way you generally can’t get if you’re in someone’s POV. In that case, what tends to happen is I do a split where I show the person and then get into their heads or vice versa.

    For me as a reader, it’s not who’s POV necessarily as how it is done. I think the whole losing virginity thing is a big deal, a real milestone, so it is necessary to get, in this case, the hero’s POV to show what he’s going through. But to see him from the heroine’s side is important as well.


  5. Chicki Brown
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 7:40 am

    I’ve read the entire series twice, and I think Phury is my choice for virgin hero. Technically he’d had sex once with a stranger in a bar, but he’d never been with a woman before because of his celibacy. When he and Cormia finally get together, the scene will blow you away!

    Heidenkind, this is the best series I’ve ever read! Treat yourself to the first book, Dark Lover, as a Christmas gift!


  6. Gannon
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 7:53 am

    Zsadist….my favorite Brother without a doubt! His story is so powerful and heart-wrenching. And the Needing scene with him and Bella is indeed one of the most erotic love scenes EVAH!

    As for the virgin hero’s POV, bring it on! I definitely want to know what he’s thinking and feeling. It gives the whole experience a lot more punch!

    Great blog, Kati! What an excellent way to start our Virgin Hero Week!


  7. Kati
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 8:39 am

    Good Morning everyone! JR, thank you SO much for stopping by. I had to laugh when I picked Zsadist and then realized that I actually hadn’t chosen a virgin (technically). But he reads SO like a virgin because of his overwhelming emotional journey.

    And I LOVE that Bella is the one initiating him. Because after her abduction, she has baggage too. And she sees how terrifying he is, but can’t seem to stop pursuing him. I love that she’s the pursuer. It makes their dynamic so interesting. Because Z has terrified everyone he’s ever come in contact with. It’s unbearably sweet.

    Heidenkind, I agree, you should give the BDB a try. They are compulsively readable, and incredibly sweet. Do yourself a favor though, get more than one at a time. Because believe me, when you finish one, you’ll want to go immediately on to another!

    Thanks everyone for helping us kick off Virgin Hero Week, even if I broke the rules already. 😈


  8. katiebabs
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 8:56 am

    I think JR did a great job of showing both Z and Bella’s POV’s equally. In my opinion, Z is very much a virgin because he was forced to have sex. Knowing that Bella was able to help him heal, he essentially made love for the first time ever with Bella.
    OMG Kati you are evil because now I want a re-read!


  9. Stacy ~
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 9:01 am

    I’m with Gannon, I definitely have a soft spot for Zsadist. You mention some of the most wonderful scenes – his first kiss, telling Bella he loves her. Sigh. Just beautiful.

    And yes, I do want to know what the hero is feeling, virgin or not. I want to feel that he’s equally invested in the relationship, not just assume it, and I’d like to know what’s going through his mind, how he feels about the heroine. I am all about the hero 😉


  10. LaHockey
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 9:12 am

    Ah….Z! Lover Awakened in so beautifully crafted and moving it has to be one of the best love stories ever written. I agree…while technically not a virgin, Zsadist is a virgin in thought and deed when it comes to love. Especially love of a good woman and love for himself. He is definitely a work in progress but someone you really cheer for throughout all of the BDB books.

    Thank you for a great article Kati – any tidbit of the Brothers helps fill the gap between book releases! :o)

    And a HUGE Thank you to JR for writing a series of books that feel like a part of my soul. I devour them and come back for more. Thank you. Your talent is amazing!


  11. Kati
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 9:24 am

    JR – Do you think Z is your favorite because he has the longest row to hoe? In terms of emotional evolution, I mean. He’s just so complex, and seems to be at conflict with himself so often.

    KB – :evilgrin: That’s the point. It was SO tough being me, having to re-read Z’s book again for this project. LOL!

    Stacy – I loved The Needing. I always site it as my favorite love scene ever written in romance. It was just as much fun to read this time. I love how shocked Z is at everything. And then at the end, when he goes to get her food that he’s hand picked for her. :SWOON:

    Gannon – It’s funny, I’ll always be a Tohr girl. I’m so worried about my Tohr, and JR being the evil genius that she is, I’m sure is going to wait til the last book to get to his HEA. But Z tugs your heartstrings because he seems to feel everything so intensely, you know?


  12. Jo Davis
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 9:37 am

    Hello, ladies! Waving madly at Kati, Marisa, Maria, JR, Stacy and the rest! Kati, wonderful blog! Z is one of my all-time favorite heroes, and his emotional journey is raw and beautiful. I’ve read his story twice now, and I agree–sometimes being a virgin doesn’t just mean the act, but a state of mind.

    I have to add that when I saw the topic, I had to stop by. My second Firefighters of Station Five book that is being released in May, UNDER FIRE, features virgin hero Zack Knight! 🙂 I admit I’m more slanted toward the hero’s POV as an author, especially in Zack’s case because it’s his arc, his first experience with the woman he’s falling for and the greatest emotional impact comes from his viewpoint, in this case. That’s not to say I don’t ever use Cori’s POV during the loving, because I do–I like for the reader to be able to see Zack as she sees him, to know why she’s falling for this man.


  13. Kati
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 9:43 am

    Dang it! I totally should have thought of that and asked for an ARC, Jo! That would have made PJ implode though! LOL!


  14. Jo Davis
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 9:48 am

    Hi Kati! LOL, the ARC’s aren’t ready yet, but when they are soon, I’ll let you and PJ duke it out. 🙂


  15. Andrea
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 10:07 am

    Interesting blog, Kati! And what a good point that the term ‘virgin’ can mean more than just ‘never had sex’. I totally agree that Z would qualify as such. 😉

    heidenkind, you’re not the only one! I’ve not read this series either! :ducks:


  16. Andrea
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 10:10 am

    Oops! I forgot to add that I *love* reading love scenes from the hero’s POV. Since most men don’t express themselves like women do, it’s great to read how they’re feeling and what they’re thinking while in the act. 😉


  17. azteclady
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 10:31 am

    Good morning, everyone!

    While I have issues with the BDB series, Zsadist is one of my favorite male leads in fiction, and I definitely consider him a GREAT choice for a virgin male–so many firsts for him! From the beginning of emotional attachment to Bella in Lover Eternal and through to the novella in the Insider’s Guide, he struggles to overcome all the physical and emotional abused of his early life, and his choice to do so, fueled by his love for Bella, is just a beautiful, incredibly moving thing to witness.

    As for the question of point of view… virgin or not, hero or heroine, having both points of view at some point helps me connect to the characters on a deeper level. Twenty or so years back when romances tended to have only the female point of view or (worse, from my perspective) only an omniscient narrator, it was nigh impossible to connect with the male characters. I mostly perceived them as arrogant asshats, whose highhanded decisions and actions rarely were in the best interest of the heroine. Knowing what thought processes lie behind these makes it all that more understandable to the reader.

    I’m not sure I made sense… I probably need more coffee.


  18. Stacy ~
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 11:23 am

    Oh yeah Jo, can’t wait to read about your virgin hero. That excerpt you provided was incendiary! I might have to join Kati & PJ in the fray.


  19. Laura
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 11:38 am

    OK Ladies,
    I have to confess, J.R. Ward’s BDB is my first vampire series I have ever read, and I adored it. It’s nice to see such comlicated men. Z is by far the sexiest. I think I have blogged that before. And, another confession, I read a few of Ward’s love scenes to my husband out loud, you ladies should try it. I swear he turned three shades of pink. And as for POV, I like to see it switch back in forth when it’s the first time. It can be hard to follow sometimes, but if the writer does it right, it is much more personal.


  20. katiebabs
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 12:15 pm

    Sexy virgin firefighter?? *thump* I can show him how to use his hose. 😉


  21. Jo Davis
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 12:35 pm

    Thanks, Stacy! You know, my copy editor even wrote a glowing comment in the margin of my mss on that scene, which he’d never done before! (blush)

    KB, ohh yes, I’m with you on the hose! Funny but true: When I told my mother I was writing Zack’s story and that he’s a virgin, she laughed and said, “Not by the time YOU got finished with him!” Ha!

    Laura, my darling hubby likes to read my sexy scenes, jokes with the guys at work that he’s got the best “proofreading” job in the world! Of course, allowing him to peek at those scenes can sometimes lead to, ahem, big trouble… 🙂


  22. Carolyn Jean
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 12:47 pm

    What a fantastic post! I loved that first kiss scene. Really, this made me want to reread this book. And SO interesting that Z is JR’s fave hero. You know, I remember that whole thing of Z not letting anybody come near Bella after he rescued her, and it was unusual, but it felt so realistic, too.


  23. Suzanne Welsh
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 1:09 pm

    Hey Ladies! I love the virgin heroes….er….topic…Yeah, that’s it! JR–Zadist’s story was one of my all time favorites. He was such a tortured soul…and for him to end up with Bella was fantastic!

    As for Jo Davis’ character, Zack….let me just tell you , you’re gonna gobble him up, ladies! He may be a virgin, but he’s a quick learner!!


  24. Kati
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 1:12 pm

    As for Jo Davis’ character, Zack….let me just tell you , you’re gonna gobble him up, ladies! He may be a virgin, but he’s a quick learner!!

    *pouting*

    Well, that’s just bragging, Suzanne. 😀


  25. CourtneyLee
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 1:36 pm

    Zsadist is one of my favorite heroes, hands down. I’m a total JR Ward junkie (she’s one of few people outside my inner circle who’s gotten hand-knit goodies from me LOL) and I thing Lover Awakened is one of the best romances I have ever read. I used to think she’d shot herself in the foot with it–how could she possibly top something that amazing? But every Brotherhood book has been remarkable in very unique ways. She’s kind of a genius like that. 😀

    Something that blew me away in the best way possible was how far Zsadist had come in terms of his sexual identity when we saw him in “Father Mine”, the novella in JR’s BDB Insider’s Guide. He’s become an alpha male in so many ways, not the least of which is his complete comfort with his emotional and physical reaction to Bella.

    Another “nearly virgin” hero I loved was Sebastian Wroth from Kresley Cole’s Immortals After Dark series. He’d had sex less than half a dozen times, all of which were way less than memorable, before he was transformed into a vampire and was impotent until he met his Bride, Kaderin. How he reacts to sexual situations with her is a mix of curiosity, wonder, and pure lust. It makes for a very potent combination and results in very sensual, very touching love scenes between him and his heroine.


  26. cyclops8
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 1:58 pm

    Jo, I can’t wait for Zack’s story.

    I haven’t read many stories where the hero is a virgin. I think I would expect to be seeing the hero’s point of view in regards to the pivotal sex scene to get insight into what he’s feeling(excited, nervous.)


  27. orannia
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 2:01 pm

    Not meant to be typing – tendonitis in both wrists 🙁 – but THANK YOU KATI! I just loved the last two quotes. *SIGH*


  28. Karin
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 2:18 pm

    heidenkind, I’m right there with you in not having read this series. The more I hear about it, though, the more I want to read it. It sounds really fantastic. Kati, your post especially makes me anxious to start reading this series. Z sounds like a fabulous and fascinating hero.

    As for the POV, I have to agree with JR that I’m not as fussed about who’s POV it is as how the whole scene is done. I would love to get the hero’s POV if that is what is having the bigger impact on the overall story, but if it’s not, I’m happy with the heroine’s POV as well. It’s nice to get a little of both, though, and see how they’re both dealing with the emerging relationship.


  29. J.R. Ward
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 3:03 pm

    You know, I feel as if Z was a virgin. I really do. Because he didn’t share any of himself- he was taken against his will. I feel as if Bella allowed him to reconnect with his body and showed him the way to enjoy sex.

    *sigh*

    God, I love him.

    Anywho, yes, I think I like him best because he came from such a dark, violent place (remmy when he met Beth for the first time? EEK) and ended up with some warm in him (I think of the note he slipped Bella at the end of LA.)


  30. CourtneyLee
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 3:36 pm

    I agree with JR, it’s the contrast of Zsadist that is so remarkable. I was rereading Lover Eternal (again) and I found myself so fascinated by the first time he and Bella saw each other. He was pretty nasty to her, then and when she followed him to his room later on in that book. Knowing how he used to be is what makes what he became, as seen in “Father Mine,” that much more amazing. And heroic.


  31. heidenkind
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 3:38 pm

    Karin & Andrea–oh, good, that makes me feel better. 🙂

    I’ve definitely thought about starting the series. Maybe I’ll have time during my Christmas break.


  32. Areyn-Rayne
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 3:41 pm

    I like to see the POV of the person having the most trouble. It is nice to hear from both characters POV, but it takes skill to do it well, but that is never a worry for me in the BDB series.

    Z is possibly my favorite if not my absolute favorite male character in any romance novel. I can relate to him in some ways and its nice to see a character that I could actually on some level understand the motives and actions of.

    And he for me qualifies as a virgin as I would take that term to mean someone who hasn’t voluntarily had sex before with someone he cares for.


  33. Buffie
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 4:12 pm

    Kati, great blog! I guess Z is just one more reason I should read JR’s books. So, heidenkind, you are not the only one!

    As for the hero’s POV — I would definitely love to read that!!!

    Hey Jo **waving** I can’t wait for Zack’s book. I think Maria & Marisa are going to have draw names on who gets his ARC!


  34. Maria Lokken
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 4:28 pm

    I think what I love about Z is exactly what JR said – he came from such a dark place – and his ‘awakening’ was painful – but when he and Bella finally ‘connect’ it was a release for me the reader as well. I felt totally satisfied by his journey, and I had an incredible soft spot for him as the ‘tortured’ hero. I wanted him to have a win. And it totally mirrors how I feel about people in life – when they’ve had a hard time, I want them to win.

    I think he is a virgin in many ways – most of all a virgin in learning how to feel and love… you end up cheering him on throughout the book.


  35. Maria Lokken
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 4:29 pm

    Jo Davis – can’t wait to read about your virgin hero – although I tend to agree with your mother – he may not be by the time you’re through with him.


  36. Theresa
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 4:36 pm

    Kati, can’t tell you how many Z lovers out there are swooning right now. Excellent post, btw.

    As for POV, I like a story that has both his and hers. It keeps it from being too one-dimensional. Any of the Black Dagger Brotherhood books are an excellent example of multiple POVs. She makes it work. And speaking of JR Ward, if you want another virgin try “The Story of Son” from the newly released anthology Dead After Dark. Consider it “research.”


  37. Candice
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 7:31 pm

    I love this book, I’m gonna go get Z and do a wonderful re-read 🙂

    as far as pov, I think I prefer the male’s but both are good

    Candice


  38. Jo Davis
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 8:30 pm

    Hi Cyclops! Yes, you can count on Zack’s POV when the actual deed is done! 🙂

    Hi Buffie! *waving back madly*! How’s it hanging?? Haven’t heard from you lately!

    Hey, Maria! Nope, when I was done with Zack, the man was…smiling. A lot. 🙂


  39. Maria Lokken
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 8:39 pm

    Jo – My kind of man!


  40. Laura
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 8:41 pm

    Just a quick question, is there really such a thing as a virgin hero? Think about it, don’t you want him to be all alpha male knowing how to do it right in bed the first time? And JR thank you for the series, I am soo hooked.


  41. Kati
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 9:02 pm

    Laura – Good question, and one we’ll be exploring all week. But IMO, yes, there is such a thing. Have you read Outlander by Diana Gabaldon. Jamie is absolutely a virgin hero. We’ll say, he wonders at first about the mechanics of it. But he gets the hang of it pretty darn well! LOL!

    But all week we’ll be looking at heroes who have not had sex (that’s not to say that they ALL don’t have sexual experience), but most of them are at the very least, technically virgins. I just…broke the rules right off the bat with Z, who technically isn’t a virgin.


  42. PJ
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 10:48 pm

    Great blog, Kati! What a terrific way to kick off Virgin Heroes Week! I’m out of town but had to stop by before the day ended to check out your hero. Good thing I did too. What’s this about you trying to sneak off with Zack?!? 🙂


  43. Teresa
    on Dec 8th, 2008
    @ 11:31 pm

    I agree with everything yall said. Z’s one of my favorite hero’s of all. Also Sherrilyn Kenyon’s hero Wren was a virgin, and I really love him too.


  44. Athena
    on Dec 9th, 2008
    @ 12:58 am

    Yes, I totally agree with JR Ward. Zsadist is such an amazing character. I was balling my eyes out when he handed Bella the “I love you” note. And I cried like a baby when he texted Bella in “Father Mine”. Who could not love this guy?

    And Im curious if any of you ladies have guys like him in your life.

    I swear I actually do. But real life Zsadists are definitely tough ones to handle. I handle mine with extreme kid gloves. I love him crazy, but sometimes when their past is thrown on you, it’s so unbelievably painful. Abuse really changes people. And loving someone who was a Navy Seal, 6′ 4″ and 240 of lean muscle can be sometimes scary. I watch him work out sometimes and think about Zsadist in the gym for the first time when he sees Bella. All freaked out. But my Zsadist kisses me all sweaty. It’s so freakin’ crazy…


  45. jo
    on Dec 9th, 2008
    @ 8:56 am

    J R may have written a hell of a book in Lover Awakened ….. and Lord did she ever…. but Kati your commentary is wonderful!

    It was not a book I wanted to read, not a theme or a series that I thought I would like, but Zsadist was so beautifully drawn, so in need of and deserving of a HEA that it sucked me right in.

    The Romance world is filled with all kinds of great heroes, but Z will always be the one I think of when I think of tortured and virgin and damn, isn’t he just worthy of a HEA!

    Thanks so much.


  46. smkdhorse_lover
    on Dec 9th, 2008
    @ 9:48 pm

    I completely, utterly over Zsadist. He’s amazing. I can’t put it an shorter or sweeter, cuz everyone else here has said what i would have said.


  47. Samantha
    on Dec 10th, 2008
    @ 12:29 am

    Hey! – I have never written anything on this site before, so bare with me – I absolutely love JRWard’s series and Lover Awakened is my favorite, hands down. The thing about Zsadist, and other virgin heroes, is the insecurity that they don’t show to anyone (unless they eventually show it to the heroine) so the reader doesn’t see it unless the story is told from the hero’s pov. Zsadist comes across as being so nasty (especially in Dark Lover) but you never guess at what is really going through his head.
    I think the insecurity that is sometimes seen in vrigin heroes is sexy as hell – it makes them seem more like real people.

    (As far as Z having “release”, that doesn’t ever happen for him in his entire (200+ year) life – no matter how many times he was with a woman – untill the first time he has sex with Bella.)


  48. Laura
    on Dec 10th, 2008
    @ 9:46 am

    Samantha I am fairly new to this too! Welcome. I started reading the BDB because of the video interviews with JR. I am on book five right now, and so far, it’s all about Z. He is the most complicated Hero I have ever read. As a matter of fact, I keep going back to the book and pick through to my favorite scenes.


  49. Tyna J
    on Dec 31st, 2008
    @ 12:19 am

    Im so in love with Zsadist and Bella that i could read a whole series about them. it could seriously be just about them doing everyday normal (well noremal for warrior vampires) things and id still be absolutely entranced. Its so endearing! I loved how Bella had to be the one to help him to save Z from himself. and when i got to the end, i just had to read the last pages over and over and over because i was just so overwhelmed with emotion! I hope theres like a spin off series about them!


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